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DP World

Posted on Sun 11 Nov 2007 22:10 by investor
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bio4jaa wrote:

I am not sure if DP World is causing for the volume to drop, does any one know if it is the DP World in combination with market correction are the main cause behind the bears market?


I am extremely pissed with the way my bank has gone about it. It took me two days, an accident, a broken set of specs and 3 hours off from work to get it done.

I visited 2 banks( 3 branches) and found not more than 50 people applying for the IPO. It might get oversubscribed but not like the usual IPO mania in UAE.



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Re: DP World

Posted on Sun 11 Nov 2007 23:13 by Sid
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I visited 2 banks( 3 branches) and found not more than 50 people applying for the IPO. It might get oversubscribed but not like the usual IPO mania in UAE.


That's good news. Smile

It also took me 3 hours off work & multiple visits to my broker & bank to apply for the IPO, & it would be really disappointing to be only alloted US$2000 worth of shares in return for all this effort.

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Posted on Sun 11 Nov 2007 23:23 by bio4jaa
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I give up on DP World, I dont really think its worth the hazzle and efforts to hold $2000 worth of shares. Unless some one convince me otherwise.. Rolling Eyes

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Posted on Mon 12 Nov 2007 02:17 by zeropoint
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I dont see DPW getting alot of subscription ... Dana gas IPO was smaller than this but the frenzy to subscribe for it was something ... i dont c it with this IPO ... DFM index behavior is also not consistent wid the presence of such a large IPO ... smaller IPOs have had bigger effects on the index than the DPW IPO ... i will be really surprised if it is oversubscribed ... i dunno how many ppl or institutions in other countries r applying ... i think the factors that might be affecting it are :

1. complicated process of applying.
2. complicated process of trading in DIFX
3. high PE
4. possibility of dhiram revaluation ... which wud cause losses to ppl buying in $
5. share price ( well atleast i think ) is quiet high. Shocked

anyone can add to the list ... there cud be something i missed ... T & SW what r ur thoughts on this ...???

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DP World subscription woes

Posted on Mon 12 Nov 2007 09:16 by sharewadi
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It took me two days, an accident, a broken set of specs and 3 hours off from work to get it done.

That makes the subscription fees unexpectedly expensive Shocked . You deserve an extra allotment for that...

There was a comment from one of the Dubai Eye Business Breakfast guests this morning, I think he was from Algebra or Abraaj Capital (can't remember) about the DPW IPO not sucking out market liquidity. Which made sense, see ...

Bulls and Bears topic about market liquidity and recent downturn.

But he gave an odd sounding reason and I don't know if I heard correctly. It sounded like he was saying you can subscribe but you don't have to pay until after the subscription period closes. I thought you had to deposit funds with your application? Sounds like it from the literature...

DP World application form wrote:
... Application Forms must be accompanied by (i) a banker's cheque denominated in UAE dirhams drawn on a UAE bank in favour of "DP World IPO" or (ii) if the applicant has either a US dollar or a UAE dirham account with one of the Receiving Banks, an instruction to debit US dollars or UAE dirhams, as the case may be, from such account, ...

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Posted on Mon 12 Nov 2007 09:27 by sharewadi
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T & SW what r ur thoughts on this ...???

Your comments sound like valid points to me. The possible revaluation of the UAE dirham is an interesting one, I hadn't considered that.

I note this week that DP World is advertising on the radio, and large advertisements in the press. I don't recall that happening last week, or for any other UAE IPO. I'm not sure there's anything to be read into that since everything is different for this IPO.

Regarding the high PE, the Return on Equity (ROE) is one of the lowest I've seen for a UAE company. There's some more analysis in a post I did about DP World financial accounts. I feel like I've made an error somewhere, but it's not obvious to me. If anyone can spot anything ...

I've also added a DP World stock information page with a bit of historical information.
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Re: DP World subscription woes

Posted on Mon 12 Nov 2007 22:21 by investor
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But he gave an odd sounding reason and I don't know if I heard correctly. It sounded like he was saying you can subscribe but you don't have to pay until after the subscription period closes. I thought you had to deposit funds with your application? Sounds like it from the literature...


The bank debited the amount on the very same day I applied for the IPO. I applied for a direct debit from my account.

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Re: DP World

Posted on Tue 13 Nov 2007 06:09 by Drake
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I am extremely pissed with the way my bank has gone about it.

After trying for 2 days and enduring long queues (blatant preference was given to Emiratis, irrespective of what amount they put), I managed to hand in my application, and was given the blue copy minus the bank stamp/signature. Anyways got that rectified, but yes I found it strange that my account was debited on the same day as well.

Unlike the Dana Gas IPO, there isnt a mad rush to get this one - but I wouldnt be surprised if it does get over-subscribed many times over.

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2. complicated process of trading in DIFX

How so?

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DP World busy or not?

Posted on Tue 13 Nov 2007 11:12 by sharewadi
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After trying for 2 days and enduring long queues ...

Drake wrote:
... there isnt a mad rush to get this one ...

That sort of says 2 different things? Smile. There was a report from Reuters saying the DP World was busy. I'll add more comment in a minute.

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The bank debited the amount on the very same day I applied for the IPO. I applied for a direct debit from my account.

Drake wrote:
but yes I found it strange that my account was debited on the same day as well.

Thanks for the feedback on that. Maybe I misunderstood the radio comment, or perhaps it was something that applied to institutions.

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... (blatant preference was given to Emiratis, irrespective of what amount they put)...

Embarassed Ahhh..... Have addressed that comment in a separate topic.
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Posted on Tue 20 Nov 2007 23:32 by aekpani
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Well. I went to Mashreq Bank MOE Br, time = 11:46 hrs.
foundout I would require to bring proof of account with broker.
so I have asked brokerage company to send me a fax copy of my statement.
I submitted my papers, within 25 mins I got my payment slip and stamped copy.
left the br at 12:38 pm. (15th Nov)
so my part no complains, all went just fine..
BTW I have made my managers chq on same day Smile Smile

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DPW subscriptions at Mashreq

Posted on Wed 21 Nov 2007 00:43 by sharewadi
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Thanks aekpani. It's good to get positive feedback also. And welcome to Dubai Share Talk Smile.

Good luck with your DPW shares Smile.
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Re: DP World busy or not?

Posted on Wed 21 Nov 2007 21:32 by Drake
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Embarassed Ahhh..... Have addressed that comment in a separate topic.

Well it was just an observation, no racial intolerance or any of that nonsense from my side. I hope it wasn't taken in the wrong vein. But yes, we are all here to learn and share knowledge and hopefully make some money. So peace out =)

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