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Aabar Arabtec takeover

Posted on Mon 28 Dec 2009 15:23 by maq3012
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ARTC closed at 15% (up) lock in on speculation that AABAR Investment is intrested to take a stake in ARTC. AABAR closed at 2.32. Rolling Eyes



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Re: Aabar Arabtec takeover

Posted on Tue 29 Dec 2009 09:36 by bandakok
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ARTC closed at 15% (up) lock in on speculation that AABAR Investment is intrested to take a stake in ...

With many smaller contractors falling to hard times ARTC survived during the 80's and 90's in similar situation, I think ARTC has been awarded many service (sub) contracts around Dubai by private and govermental institutions.

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Hostile Take Over?

Posted on Tue 29 Dec 2009 12:16 by Cash King
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Hi Friends ,

Do we believe that the Current move at the ARTC counter looks like a Hostile Takeover ?

Good for small share holder & alarming for the current management.

The Chairman ARTC Mr. Raid Kamal has already off loaded his share holding since 2007 todate.

Any way interesting developments.

lets wait and see.

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Re: Hostile Take Over?

Posted on Tue 29 Dec 2009 19:13 by Novice_investor
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The Chairman ARTC Mr. Raid Kamal has already off loaded his share holding since 2007 todate.


Hi CK...

how do you know the ARTC Chairman has offloaded holding... ?
is there any source on this...?

i hope what you are saying has some realism to it... this would be good news for market... something like WB buying burlington types...
i doubt though... difficult to do a takover through the stock market... there has to be some block deals...

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Thanks but

Posted on Tue 29 Dec 2009 20:14 by Cash King
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Hi Novice,

Yes we try to track the record through DFM web site.

Actually I bought the shares on Jan 05,2005 The First Day of Listing on the DFM and I am still holding the shares.

I saw AED 20 per shares and also AED 0.73 per shares. LOL

So if you are invested you keep a track even your eyes are closed. Laughing

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Re: Thanks but

Posted on Tue 29 Dec 2009 23:21 by Novice_investor
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Actually I bought the shares on Jan 05,2005 The First Day of Listing on the DFM and I am still holding ...


Thanks CK...

i actually bought artc today only... at 2.68... it was more of a gamble than anything else... lets see how it goes... the whole index looks like a gamble at times... Smile

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Any one knows

Posted on Wed 30 Dec 2009 09:48 by Cash King
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Dear Friends,

Today ARTC issued press release at DFM web site regarding the latest news. Which is in arabic.

Can any one knows what it means? Translation.

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Arabtec Aabar buy rumour

Posted on Wed 30 Dec 2009 15:00 by AUHanalyst
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Reuters 30 December 2009:
Arabtec says no truth to Aabar stake buy rumor

DUBAI - Arabtec (ARTC) said on Wednesday there was no truth to market speculation that Abu Dhabi's Aabar Investment (AABAR) would take a stake in the construction heavyweight.

The rumors had driven the Dubai-listed firm's stock more than 20 percent higher this week. On Monday, Arabtec's chief executive told Reuters he was unaware of any reason for the sharp run-up in the company's shares.

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ARTC & Aabar

Posted on Fri 01 Jan 2010 20:14 by Cash King
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Dear Friends,

First Happy New Year to all.

The Year 2010 bring happiness to both Bulls & Bears of the markets.

Q: Do we ask ARTC's Management when we buy the shares of ARTC from the open market?

A: NO

So why Aabar Investment will talk and discuss with ARTC before buying Shares of ARTC from Open market?

What I guess that market rumours is misinterpret? Question

In my opinion Aabar Investment may sense some big Contracts in Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia may be buying the shares of ARTC from the open market.

Further more What I guess is that ARTC Management may be holding less controling share. Wink

No smoke without fire. Wink

Thanks & Cheers Very Happy

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RE: Any One Knows

Posted on Fri 01 Jan 2010 20:48 by ixtira
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The press release on the 30th denied rumors that Aabar are going to invest in the company.

I agree with Cash King ... No smoke without fire

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Aabar fire extinguisher

Posted on Sun 03 Jan 2010 13:20 by sharewadi
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No smoke without fire.

Here's the fire extinguisher from Aabar (AABAR) Wink.

Question is, does this disclosure confirm or deny the rumour as we understand it? The past few weeks have clarified that what we sometimes understand from official sources is entirely the opposite of what was intended, due to our own ignorance, so we had better read things more carefully.

In this case, at first blush it would appear that Aabar (AABAR) is clearly not buying into Arabtec. But I notice that Arabtec (ARTC) is not mentioned by name. Were there other companies mentioned in the Bloomberg report that Aabar is referring to, that Aabar has not invested in - maybe they didn't invest in Bloomberg? I see that Aabar says it "has not made an investment". So if Aabar did make an investment in Arabtec tomorrow (or even today), then this disclosure would still be correct Shocked ?

Is there any other way this statement could be interpreted as Aabar possibly investing, or considering an investment, in Arabtec? Note that it's the ADX, not Aabar, that mentions Arabtec by name.

ADX 03 January 2010:
AABAR has not made an investment in ARABTEC.

Aabar disclosure 03 January 2010:
Khaled Khalfan Al-Suwaidi
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cc. Ms. Maryam Buti Al Suwaidi
Securities and Commodities Authority
Abu Dhabi
3 January 2010

Dear Sir,

Re: Facsimile of 30 December 2009

Further to your facsimile message of 30 December 2009, we note your request for confirmation as to whether an investment has been made by Aabar Investments PJSC (“Aabar”) as mentioned in the Bloomberg report to which you refer in your facsimile.

As you will be aware, Aabar’s business strategy is to consider at all times any investment opportunity which may be beneficial to Aabar and its shareholders.

As regards the investment referred to in your facsimile, we can confirm that Aabar has not made an investment in the company mentioned in the Bloomberg report to which you refer in your facsimile.

Yours faithfully,

Mohamed Badawy Al-Husseiny
Chief Executive Officer
Aabar Investments PJSC

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artc bod

Posted on Sun 03 Jan 2010 15:30 by Novice_investor
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happy new yr friends... grt start...

no smoke without fire... i agree... but where is the fire...

i think the fire may not be the aabar thing... though it may have added some oil to it...

artc is a strong co. anyways... with well diversified projects... cash flow problem was anticipated but now money is coming back in the market...

to come to the point... looking at the stock movement... i am expecting a very pleasant surprise on the bod meeting of artc... and i doubt it would be a dividend... considering that they need the money now to complete and expand... infact being a shareholder i would not want a dividend... maybe a rights issue?

Smile thats more like it...

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Re: artc bod

Posted on Sun 03 Jan 2010 15:33 by sharewadi
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infact being a shareholder i would not want a dividend... maybe a rights issue?

See the Arabtec dividend topic Smile ...
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Posted on Sun 03 Jan 2010 15:53 by OnlineTrader
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I been watching and monitoring ARTC for past couple of sessions, Most of trades look very manipulated to me.
I mean it is like you already agreed with someone to sell/buy an specified amount of share at an agreed price.

I have have this feeling, only feeling!, that this takeover is taking place right now.

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Posted on Sun 03 Jan 2010 17:39 by Novice_investor
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I mean it is like you already agreed with someone to sell/buy an specified amount of share at an agreed ...

hi OT...

what i dont understand is that for takeover why would one need to buy from market through someone who is selling... why can't they just transfer shares outside the market...?

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Hostile Take Over

Posted on Sun 03 Jan 2010 23:02 by Cash King
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Dear Friends,

The ARTC & Aabar Case is a simple Hostile Take over in my opinion . It happens in most of the markets. Not a new phenomenon.

Please try to understand that it usualy happens when:

1) In bear market or crisis some time management sell their own shares OR some Major share holder offload and increase the market floating shares . Ultimately some smart investors take advantage and pick the share slowly and steadly.

2) The smart investors never buy from his own account and use a number of proxy accounts in his staff or friends names.

I know that there are too much experience and well trained people sitting at DFM, ADX and ESCA. They Know very well about such circumstances. so all such press release are of No value.

I have seen such thing in my stock market life many times.

Most of the time small share holder are beneficial.

If you read the Accounts of Aabar Investment 2009 then we are force to think that they want to take the advantage of huge infrastructure construction boom in GCC.

Only CDS - Central Depository Settlement can issue report about the current status of Share Holding by the current Managment.? Wink

Lets see what happen on the BoD meeting on Jan 06,2010.

Cash Dividend - Out of Question
Bonus - May be 50:50- How Much ?
Right Issue : May be 50:50- How Much ?

They can announce Bonus as they earn around 50% of the Capital. EPS is 0.50+ per share.

Any way tomorrow is the historical moment for all Residents of UAE.

Congratulation to entire team of Burj Dubai.

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Re: Hostile Take Over

Posted on Mon 04 Jan 2010 09:58 by sharewadi
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Lets see what happen on the BoD meeting on Jan 06,2010 ...

See the ARTC dividend topic for comments about the Arabtec dividend Smile.
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Posted on Mon 04 Jan 2010 12:39 by bandakok
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If anyone has noticed although Emaar was shooting up ARTC was kept at bay. It could be very well be a takeover and keeping the share value as low as possible .
In my openion there is a takeover happening which will increase share value close to 5 .last 3 week of DEC can anyone find the n# of shares traded? There is no smoke without fire .

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Posted on Mon 04 Jan 2010 13:00 by OnlineTrader
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bandakok wrote:
In my openion there is a takeover happening which will increase share value close to 5 .last 3 week of ...


As I mentioned before I see the same.

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Posted on Mon 04 Jan 2010 18:49 by ixtira
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Cash King wrote:
The ARTC & Aabar Case is a simple Hostile Take over in my opinion . It happens in most of the markets. Not a new phenomenon.


I agree that a hostile takeover would be nothing unusual in Wall Street … but in the UAE Question

No large scale (mid cap and above) hostile takeovers involving listed companies has ever happened before in the UAE (please correct me if I am wrong).

It’s also not AABAR’s modus operandi to purchase large companies outright. AABAR typically operates as a co-investor.

That said, there is a first time for everything Very Happy

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AABAR vs ARTC

Posted on Mon 04 Jan 2010 21:34 by Maha
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Hi all

lets assume if... there will be hostile takeover / merger (in my view it is unlikely in UAE) will happen than what will be the prices of;

ARTC 2.73... to 5... or more less than 2.73
AABAR 2.25 ...to 5... or more than 5 a well

means which share is better to buy now which have more upside. I think aabar is better as it is giving hostile bid and the shareholders of aabar will benefit

time will show, however all experts views are required

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Posted on Tue 05 Jan 2010 00:29 by bandakok
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normaly the company being taken over shares go up in value to increase share value and could go up higher in case of more than 1 bidder..
i wish i knew the office boy of ARTC or ABAAR, he he. We all know there will be also Saudi guys looking to buy or have a share of ARTC, its a matter of time only.

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Posted on Tue 05 Jan 2010 10:08 by bandakok
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BOD meeting delayed till 7th (Thursday), i wonder why always news comes when market is closed.

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Aabar > Arabtec

Posted on Thu 07 Jan 2010 10:34 by maq3012
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I feel the Aabar bid to takeover Arabtec shares is on. Both the companies are on high volumes. Wait and watch for another press release.

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Posted on Thu 07 Jan 2010 13:23 by OnlineTrader
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Again 2.96 looks very strong to be broken.
However bulls have taken control of ARTC ans it seems since both ARTC and AABAR going up simoltaniously, then there are some serious discussions which will be in the meeting.

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