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khan007 opportunist

Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 44
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Posted on Thu 14 Jan 2010 15:38 by khan007
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| thajuddeen wrote: |
| I will expect a trading day that may range between 10-15% in the coming week. |
Hi thaj
do we are expecting a rebound to EMAAR? |
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thajuddeen capitalist

Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1694 Location: UAE
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Posted on Thu 14 Jan 2010 16:35 by thajuddeen
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| khan007 wrote: |
| do we are expecting a rebound to EMAAR? |
Khan,
There are some bad signs on EMAAR and some other major stocks that may take the prices further down next week.
Market may consider to fill a gap between 3.27 and 3.61.
| thajuddeen 14 Dec wrote: |
| So in my pattern analysis, I will add couple of blocks that EMAAR reaches a traditional resistance levle above 4.00 i.e., 4.26.... |
When I predicted casually on 14 Dec 2009 with my Block pattern, I had no clue it will hit a 100% correct. I just added 0.48+0.50+3.27=4.26. 3.27 was the high the previous day.
On 14 Dec 2009 the stock jumped to open limit up at 3.61 and stayed there for the rest of the day. Market is looking to trade that gap. Interestingly 3.27 is a couple of blocks from 4.26 so some support might find here. Falling below 3.27 might indicate further fall but a strong rebound from around 3.27 is a usual trend from emaar, just like we had from 4.02 to 4.59. The 3.71 bubble below 3.76 (Block point) is bad sign to force prices to next Block point which is 3.27.
In short as much as stock stays below 3.71 the chances of trading 3.27 increases. It's like a major computer is set to force the price towards 3.27, I mean automated selling.  _________________ Take your own decision; and you decide your destiny |
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khan007 opportunist

Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 44
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Posted on Thu 14 Jan 2010 16:55 by khan007
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| thajuddeen wrote: |
| 4 Dec 2009 the stock jumped to open limit up at 3.61 and stayed there for the rest of the day. Market ... |
if you can indicate that major stocks? |
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fayz charletan

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Posted on Thu 14 Jan 2010 18:43 by fayz
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This thread was an interesting read, thank you all.
For me, I bought a position today at 3.56, i may have not if i read this thread before i bought , for me though and by no means am i anything more then a noob I saw some support at 3.45-3.50 which is my sell sign/support, hoping it goes up from here back to the 3.76+ mark. |
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thajuddeen capitalist

Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1694 Location: UAE
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Posted on Fri 15 Jan 2010 20:17 by thajuddeen
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| khan007 wrote: |
| if you can indicate that major stocks? |
DFM, ALDAR etc was seen on the radar. _________________ Take your own decision; and you decide your destiny |
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thajuddeen capitalist

Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1694 Location: UAE
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Posted on Fri 15 Jan 2010 21:59 by thajuddeen
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Considering a trading buy expecting a sharp rebound?
I have felt resistance at 3.64 and 3.70 on the day of bubble (3.71) which are still to be challenged. And a rebound might hit around 15% so the fall could penetrate below 3.27 to around 3.16.
A rebound from around 3.16 to 3.64 before falling below 3.00 can be expected.
Of course, this view is the outcome of a chat with the beloved 'lala' whom I met last evening for the first time. He opioned EMAAR might reach 3.15 this week. With the global stock standings as at now, it looks possible.
LALA
I was very lucky to share few hours with him last night. It was one of the pleasant meetings I ever had in my life. I was surprised to see him much younger and handsome than the figure I had in my mind for the profound maturity and experience he showed in the forum. _________________ Take your own decision; and you decide your destiny |
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thajuddeen capitalist

Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1694 Location: UAE
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Posted on Sun 17 Jan 2010 18:21 by thajuddeen
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I want to post some nonsense analysis here.
Based on the pull or push after a bubble in EMAAR, it's noticed a fils bubble could drive the price 10% away. So for the 3.71 bubble the stock could fall to around 3.27.
Previous history of bubbled gap down open (4.55) found an immediate support at (4.02) applying that into a formula reaches you to 4.02/4.55x3.7=3.27. Interestingly 4.02 and 3.27 are the Block points exactly 99 fils away from the corresponding peaks which are 5.01 and 4.26 respectively.
Also it could fill the gap between 3.61 and 3.27.
This is dedicated to WWT, the new member.
I would say some buying is encouraged around 3.27 for a trade. _________________ Take your own decision; and you decide your destiny |
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GPIC speculator

Joined: 05 Apr 2009 Posts: 323
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Posted on Sun 17 Jan 2010 19:32 by GPIC
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Hi Thaj
Ironically you have predicted 3.27 with your "block theory".
From the low of 10th December 2009 at 2.32, to the recent high of 4.26 on 4th January 2010, i think we may see a strong support at 3.29 (50% retracement ((4.26-2.32)/2)+2.32.
For the last few sessions I have kept a close watch on Emmar’s volume in relation to other liquid stocks, and its one of the few yet to reach the 50% retracement.
The bulk have hovered and passed their respective "50%'s"
My gut feeling is telling me to top up my holdings at 3.29, and i think this will happen tomorrow.
At today’s opening at 3.50, its low at 3.37, and close at 3.39, 3.29 (-2.94%) may be the trigger we are looking for tomorrow.
Keep an eye on the volumes at 3.29!
Cheers GPIC |
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indigo horse trader


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Posted on Sun 17 Jan 2010 20:12 by indigo
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No support on Technical Charts upto 2.99 _________________ For technical analysis, visit my Blog at Dubai Technical Charts |
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thajuddeen capitalist

Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1694 Location: UAE
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Posted on Tue 19 Jan 2010 14:46 by thajuddeen
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| GPIC wrote: |
| Keep an eye on the volumes at 3.29! ... |
GPIC target reached!
A leg down after a double top (3.52) tooks continuation of the downtrend.
A steady downward trend might not produce a strong rebound.
So be watchful even at 3.27. Today it found hard to break the minor block of 5 fils from 3.30/3.29.
Lala's 3.15 might be valid especially when stock finds to break abvoe 3.35 in the morning. _________________ Take your own decision; and you decide your destiny |
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abu zaid opportunist

Joined: 06 Jul 2009 Posts: 32
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Posted on Tue 19 Jan 2010 15:24 by abu zaid
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Taj,
Where do you find lala posts? we miss him at this forum.
Regards, |
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GPIC speculator

Joined: 05 Apr 2009 Posts: 323
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Posted on Tue 19 Jan 2010 17:07 by GPIC
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| thajuddeen wrote: |
GPIC target reached!
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Right on cue! Topped up my holdings at 3.30, as i noticed it wasn’t long at 3.29. I am happy.
Risk/reward positive, as we all know looking for that penultimate bottom is nearly impossible.
Good day. Feeling  |
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Suhail horse trader

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Posted on Tue 19 Jan 2010 17:29 by Suhail
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| Emaar gone below 200SMA. |
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GPIC speculator

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Posted on Tue 19 Jan 2010 21:00 by GPIC
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| Suhail wrote: |
| Emaar gone below 200SMA. |
Hi Suhail
On the 13th July 09 it was also trading below a “falling” 200SMA, at dhs2.28.
At this point, it rallied to dhs5.01 on 15th Oct 09.
The 200SMA changed direction on 3rd September and has since showing a “rising” average.
I agree with you that currently it is trading below the 200SMA (dhs3.43), since 13th July 09, we have seen two rallies off the 200SMA, so not sure whether it was such a major concern... not just yet!
If you feel this is a bigger problem, please share your views.
Cheers GPIC |
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GPIC speculator

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Posted on Tue 19 Jan 2010 21:42 by GPIC
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Todays transactions:
dhs3.30 and dhs3.31 accounted for nearly 24% of the trades.
Price - Volume - Daily percentage
3.29 Total 10,000 0.04%
3.30 Total 2,868,854 10.75%
3.31 Total 3,501,213 13.12%
3.32 Total 2,573,718 9.65%
3.33 Total 2,216,337 8.31%
3.34 Total 2,338,949 8.77%
3.35 Total 2,029,813 7.61%
3.36 Total 1,153,532 4.32%
3.37 Total 740,225 2.77%
3.38 Total 1,987,426 7.45%
3.39 Total 554,500 2.08%
3.40 Total 773,775 2.90%
3.41 Total 886,220 3.32%
3.42 Total 1,172,370 4.39%
3.43 Total 788,389 2.96%
3.44 Total 817,477 3.06%
3.45 Total 1,266,021 4.75%
3.46 Total 969,000 3.63%
3.47 Total 30,000 0.11%
Grand Total 26,677,819
Interesting? Will keep a close eye on 3.29 tomorrow to see its support.
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Suhail horse trader

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Posted on Tue 19 Jan 2010 23:58 by Suhail
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| GPIC wrote: |
| I agree with you that currently it is trading below the 200SMA (dhs3.43), since 13th July 09, we have ... |
GPIC,
Your observation on 200SMA is right with reference to 13th July. However, look at 200SMA along with a fast moving SMA of 50.
On 8th June Emaar fell below 200SMA and closed at 3.76 and that fall went up to the date and price as mentioned by you, i.e., 13th July and 2.28 eroding 40% value.
The rebound is from next day (14th July) and 50SMA crossed above 200 SMA a week later on 21st July confirming the uptrend. Now, even if we take the uptrend from confirmation date 21st July (Close Price 2.60) to peak of that rally <15th Oct, Close Price 4.48> which gives 87% gain.
Now, today is repetition of 8th June; and the scariest part is 50SMA is falling but still above 200SMA. Now if for any reason the fall goes same as earlier fall (i.e., 40%), we would be looking for Emaar at 1.99/2.00 which is way below the Thaj block theory price 3.27 (i.e., 1.5% down) and Lala theory price 3.15 (i.e., 5% down). |
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thajuddeen capitalist

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Posted on Wed 20 Jan 2010 18:33 by thajuddeen
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| Suhail wrote: |
| which is way below the Thaj block theory price 3.27 (i.e., 1.5% down) and Lala theory price 3.15 (i.e., 5% down).. ... |
Myself and lala shared the views of possible lows for the current week.
My 3.27 is based on the usual support around couple of blocks falling from the peak. Since the resistance are coming down, 3.27 may be broken heavily and then 3.00-3.05 becomes an area of pick for quick fall. If you just cut off the panic fall and rebound it's still the continuation of a downward trend from th peak of 5.01.
My ultimate target bottom is 2.14. It's just a patterned bottom not really a drilled out figure, say an estimation. We may revise it, in case the prices fall below 2.50. There are strong historical candidates like 2.25, 2.27, 2.32 etc.
There is no real bullish threat to the current downward momentum. This is because quick rebounds usually have short life so is quick falls.
Reg. lala's post: He is still in deactivated status. I had a chat with him last week. _________________ Take your own decision; and you decide your destiny |
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thajuddeen capitalist

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Posted on Wed 20 Jan 2010 20:37 by thajuddeen
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Numerical importance in EMAAR.
194 fils is a major common cycle in EMAAR, as I mentioned before.
Before the panic there were two peaks 5.01 and then 4.59, well.
Now predicting supports without panic, we have to apply 194 fils to the above peaks, then we get 3.07 and 2.65. And my expected bottom is still a BLOCK away at 2.16.
Ok, let's better discuss it in a trading trategy to double your investment. _________________ Take your own decision; and you decide your destiny |
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OnlineTrader mercenary


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Posted on Wed 20 Jan 2010 22:53 by OnlineTrader
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| thajuddeen wrote: |
Reg. lala's post: He is still in deactivated status. I had a chat with him last week.
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SW,
I don't recall why Lala deactivated but since he is really useful to DST, then may I ask you kindly to activate him again?
I appreciate your kindness. |
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sharewadi moderator

Joined: 19 Aug 2005 Posts: 13362 Location: up the wadi without a paddle
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Posted on Wed 20 Jan 2010 23:07 by sharewadi
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| OnlineTrader wrote: |
| I don't recall why Lala deactivated but since he is really useful to DST, then may I ask you kindly to activate him again? |
This topic is about Emaar trend analysis, not member activation. Please see the forum guidelines for how to be reactivated, or one of the recent posts about reactivation. Thanks . _________________ UAE IPO list | posting guidelines |
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thajuddeen capitalist

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Posted on Thu 21 Jan 2010 11:54 by thajuddeen
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| thajuddeen wrote: |
| Falling below 3.27 might indicate further fall but a strong rebound from around 3.27 is a usual trend from emaar... |
It traded the weekly target.
As mentioned it might continue the downward trend because it broke below 3.27 already but a rebound might happen as well. The steady fall has created many resistances already so the reward/risk is not attractive. _________________ Take your own decision; and you decide your destiny |
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yusufbg52 pauper

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Posted on Thu 21 Jan 2010 16:24 by yusufbg52
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HC Securities - has increased the TP of Emaar to AED6.6/share from AED6.5/share on higher rental income in todays release.
Expected Net Profit for 2009 - profit of 43 MN ( Earlier it was estimated to be a loss of 282 MN).
Emaar exposure of Amlak is approx. 2.1 BN AED ( Forecast shows no impairment losses on Amlak in the fourth qrtr by Emaar since restructuring process is nt finalized).
Increase in retail occupancy, mainly Dubai Mall’s, from a weighted average of c50% in 2009 estimated to 95% in 2010 estimated.
Major Risk factor - A potential oversupply in Dubai would have a negative implication on future sales, thus forcing Emaar to abandon some projects.
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thajuddeen capitalist

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Posted on Sat 23 Jan 2010 22:24 by thajuddeen
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I have noticed 48 fils blocks in EMAAR and if it want to do a rebound or at the bottom/peak a 50 fils block.
Now applying this on 5.01 peak, we will have block points as below:
5.01
4.53
4.05
3.57
3.09 3.07
2.61 2.59
2.13 2.11
This is assuming 5.01 is most relevent peak, than 4.59 or 4.26, which is forcing a downtrend. Let's not call a bottom yet but watch price behaviour at 3.07, 2.59 and 2.11 (ofcouse, if only, they reach there). _________________ Take your own decision; and you decide your destiny |
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OnlineTrader mercenary


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Posted on Sun 24 Jan 2010 10:25 by OnlineTrader
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| thajuddeen wrote: |
| This is assuming 5.01 is most relevent peak, than 4.59 or 4.26, which is forcing a downtrend. Let's not ... |
3.07-3.09 traded today, good job Taj. |
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Suhail horse trader

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Posted on Sun 24 Jan 2010 14:12 by Suhail
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Any news or reason for Emaar's limit down today? _________________ A market analyst is an expert who will know tomorrow why the things he predicted yesterday didn't happen today! |
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